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bspann
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50-70 pages easily and have NEVER had a complaint...if you want short and sweet that's why I have a summary page at the beginning of the report...I have seen this subject argued over many times but what it comes down to is your preference and how you want to run YOUR company. I have seen successful home inspectors do it both ways

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bspann wrote:50-70 pages easily and have NEVER had a complaint...if you want short and sweet that's why I have a summary page at the beginning of the report...I have seen this subject argued over many times but what it comes down to is your preference and how you want to run YOUR company. I have seen successful home inspectors do it both ways


If you want me to lie to you: If you include a summary that's great. Good for you.

If you want me to be honest with you: The summary is the only thing saving you there, kudos for including it. Yes, you have to do what makes you feel right about things, and I get that, but don't confuse getting compliments with people liking it. Nobody insults their waiter/waitress, even when the service sucked. Most people tip regardless.

The reality is no one wants that long of a report, and there isn't an inspector in North America doing seven figures with a report that long. That should tell you something.

If the long format is your cup of tea, please do a summary as Blake does.

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We can all debate this till we are blue in the face, the fact is that the average client does not care about fancy diagrams, for example showing why a kickout flashing is necessary, explain it in layman's terms , seems that a lot of the name brand software adds a substantial amount of fluff and pages, when I was deciding on software, I showed my wife, friends, etc that had no knowledge of construction, they were all lost after reading reports with technical jargon, diagrams, etc, the report should state the problem, have a picture and explain why and the ramifications if ignored, after that it is up to the client how they want to proceed. For example, the picture below is worth a thousand words, rotted post, broken concrete footing. I have taken Nathan' advice, my report is down to approximately 18-25 pages at best.
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We can and should debate this. I want you all to make a million.

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Mine average 30-35. Mostly because every section that doesn't have an issue says "No deficiencies" so even a new construction house has a report full of pages that say nothing.

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Nathan wrote:
bspann wrote:
If you want me to be honest with you: The summary is the only thing saving you there, kudos for including it. Yes, you have to do what makes you feel right about things, and I get that, but don't confuse getting compliments with people liking it. Nobody insults their waiter/waitress, even when the service sucked. Most people tip regardless.

The reality is no one wants that long of a report, and there isn't an inspector in North America doing seven figures with a report that long. That should tell you something.

If the long format is your cup of tea, please do a summary as Blake does.



The illustration doesn't make sense to me...yes you tip the waiter good or bad service(to be kind) however, you wouldn't compliment the server on how impressed you were with their service... compare that to a home inspector, they pay you either way whether they like it or not, but don't count on any compliments about your product if they didn't like it...

I guess I am not in this to make a million or be a millionaire, if that's what I wanted I would have picked a different trade

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SheehanThomson wrote:Mine average 30-35. Mostly because every section that doesn't have an issue says "No deficiencies" so even a new construction house has a report full of pages that say nothing.


Mine used to look like that. I hated the way that it looked. My summary now says what systems and components were inspected and explains that by definition, the purpose of a home inspection is to find defects, and if no defects or deficiencies are present, there will be no comment. It saves a ton of paper, and my report looks cleaner.

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Bensoelberg wrote:
SheehanThomson wrote:Mine average 30-35. Mostly because every section that doesn't have an issue says "No deficiencies" so even a new construction house has a report full of pages that say nothing.


Mine used to look like that. I hated the way that it looked. My summary now says what systems and components were inspected and explains that by definition, the purpose of a home inspection is to find defects, and if no defects or deficiencies are present, there will be no comment. It saves a ton of paper, and my report looks cleaner.


I have been trying to find the best way to do this. Maybe email the InterNACHI SOP and say that if it is in there thenI inspected it and if there is no comment in the report then there were no issues.

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SheehanThomson wrote:I have been trying to find the best way to do this. Maybe email the InterNACHI SOP and say that if it is in there thenI inspected it and if there is no comment in the report then there were no issues.


Yup. Maybe you could include a copy of the SOP's in the report with that explanation. I'd rather add 3 or 4 pages if it meant that I could get rid of 10-15 and have a cleaner report. I'm particularly aware of the style, format and language used in my report because I taught high school English before becoming a home inspector. I couldn't stand poorly written essays then, and I cringe when I see poorly written home inspection reports now.

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Depends on the state, some states like Texas is heavily regulated and to completely comply with some photos and not filling with disclaimers and keeping strait to the point will run a good 20 pages and sometimes 40.

I inspected a 600,000 square foot building that was 300 pages lol. Had to punch it and put it in a notebook and drop it off. That thing took 2 weeks on site and a week to write the report.

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20-30 pages. Thinking about beginning to use a summary page. Never liked them before because I figured it would be the only thing they read. Starting to not care about that, would rather provide the convenience for everyone.

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Been considering moving my Summary to the front, but to me, it's "inviting" them not to read the report; I figure they'll find it (summary,) soon enough.

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They don't want to read the report. They don't want to be educated. We're not there to help them select a house.


We're there to give them a list of defects, typically used to negotiate repairs with the seller, and doing so in the most efficient way will bring you more business.

I've been a buyer many times. I didn't read the report.

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Then how do you suggest it is done in a way that:

1. Areas with no deficiencies don't take up space in the report but the client still knows those areas were inspected.

2. Little items such as loose door handles, missing door stoppers, loose faucet handles, little dings and cracks, etc. are not taking up space BUT you still don't get calls from the buyer down the road asking why they weren't in the report.

If this can be done my reports will go from 35 pages to 15.

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Here is a loaded question, does the average client really care about anyone's sample report ? Does the average client only care about the summary page, so in another words spending the time to make the" fanciest" most technical report doesn't matter to the " average ' Joe, I can say yes, I have stated before when looking for software that the majority of the " big " software players have reports that are full of statements and disclosures that the agreement should take care of, most of the sample reports I have seen are confusing at least to someone with no construction knowledge whatsoever, diagrams even confuse the issue more, I guess as HI we feel that if someone is spending X dollars and nothing is really found, that seeing a bunch of checkboxes or narratives stating that everything is satisfactory or whatever your lingo is " cheapens" your report.

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